You're Vaccinated. Congrats! Now What Can You Do Safely?

Apr 29, 2021
Originally published on May 10, 2021 9:20 am

You got your shot and you're ready to get back to normal life. But what does that mean anymore? While being fully vaccinated doesn't mean it's suddenly safe to party like it's 2019, most interactions pose a much lower risk than they did before you got jabbed.

Remember, you don't reach full vaccination until at least two weeks after getting your second dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, or the one-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine. So what kind of precautions do you still need to take after that?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has laid out some guidelines. But for many interactions, "there is no set rulebook," says Dr. Cassandra Pierre, an infectious disease specialist at Boston Medical Center. "It really has to do with your risk tolerance." And parents with kids too young to be eligible for vaccines will have somewhat different considerations.

As you go about rediscovering life outside the bunker, here are some things to keep in mind.

Experts say the vaccines are highly effective against the strains of the coronavirus currently dominant in the U.S. They're not foolproof, but data so far show the protection is really strong. The slight remaining risk of infection will be higher if the virus is surging in your community or variants of concern are circulating widely. So stay aware of local conditions. And remember, the more people you interact with, the higher the potential risk of being exposed to the virus.

And finally, it's not just about you. You can still pick up and potentially transmit the virus to unvaccinated people — and many Americans still aren't vaccinated. What's more, vaccines may be less effective in some people who are severely immunocompromised. So think about the risk of severe disease in the people you spend time with.

"Communication is the key here," says Pierre. "Much like prior to vaccination, we all had to talk to each other to figure out what our individual risk and activities were and what our risk tolerance was."

NPR spoke with nine infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists about the relative safety of various activities after full vaccination.

The bottom line: "If you are fully vaccinated, you should feel good about participating in things that are important to you," says Dr. Preeti Malani, an infectious disease specialist and chief health officer at the University of Michigan. Just remember, you still want to behave in ways that reduce the risks for everyone.

With all that in mind, explore our frequently asked questions about life after vaccination.

Jump to a section: Masking; Hugs; Social Gatherings; Kid Questions; Travel; Indoor Dining; Weddings; Fitness & Self-Care

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Masking

Do I still have to wear a mask in public?

The U.S. remains in a weird limbo period with many unvaccinated people, including children too young to get the shot — so when you are indoors in public spaces, like a mall or grocery store, mask up.

"The reality is [in public], we don't know who's vaccinated and who's not," notes Dr. David Aronoff, director of the division of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

When it comes to outdoor activities, the CDC released guidance Tuesday that vaccinated people do not need to wear masks outside except if they're attending a crowded event. Research has consistently shown that the risk of transmitting the virus outdoors is far lower than indoors.

But keep a mask handy. Linsey Marr, a researcher at Virginia Tech who studies how viruses transmit in the air, says masking outdoors still makes sense if you are standing close to and talking to someone for more than a couple of minutes — and you don't know their vaccination status.

"My general rules of thumb would be if I'm having a face-to-face conversation with someone and ... they're within arm's reach for more than a minute or two, then I would mask," Marr says.

Hugs

Can I hug a friend?

If you're both fully vaccinated, hug away! "All of us are longing for that personal touch," says Ravina Kullar, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist based in Los Angeles.

And if they're not fully vaccinated? "If it's somebody that I love and I want to give them a hug, I'm going to put on my mask and give them a hug, and then wash my hands. I never gave up hugging," says Dr. Emily Landon, an infectious disease specialist and executive medical director for infection prevention and control at the University of Chicago School of Medicine.

OK, but my grandkids are too young to be vaccinated. Can I hug them?

"Yes, absolutely!" says Pierre, adding, "Do not squander immunity. Do the things that are going to bring you joy that you can absolutely safely do."

Social gatherings

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Can I hang out indoors mask-free with my friends if we are all fully vaccinated?

Yes, please do! If it's a small group indoors and everyone is vaccinated, it's safe to drop the masks and social distancing, according to guidelines from the CDC. But the CDC says you should still avoid medium and large-size gatherings.

How many people is too many when it comes to gathering indoors?

The CDC doesn't give a hard number for gathering sizes. Malani and Pierre both suggest a good rule of thumb is no more than 10 people. Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease doctor at the University of California, San Francisco, suggests four households as a max. Remember, it all depends on the risk factors of the people present — what other risks they are exposed to on a daily basis, their own risk for severe disease, and their risk tolerance.

"If you have regular contact with someone who is immunocompromised or unvaccinated, then you may not want to be around more than a couple of people at a time to reduce the overall risk," says Landon.

What about seeing my unvaccinated friends indoors?

The CDC says to limit your indoor interactions with unvaccinated people to just one other household at a time. The agency says you can go mask-free as long as no one in the unvaccinated household is at high risk of severe COVID-19. So if your two unvaccinated best friends live together, then yes, you can all hang out indoors at the same time. If they're not roomies, it's best to visit them one at a time.

Your kid questions

Are indoor playdates/hangouts OK if the adults are all vaccinated but the kids aren't?

While younger children are at lower risk of severe disease if they do get infected, the risk "is not zero," says Malani. And kids can transmit to others, so you still need to be thoughtful about your social bubble.

Outdoor playdates are safer, and Pierre says it's probably fine to let the kiddos go maskless if they are outside, provided there aren't variants of concern circulating widely in your community.

If you want the kids to play indoors, make sure you have an honest conversation with the other family about their risk factors. Did they just fly back from vacation in a spot where variants of concern are circulating widely? Do their kids play on a sports team that just had a COVID-19 case? Have they had a sleepover at someone else's house?

"The point is, you have shared risk and shared responsibility in terms of playdates," Malani says.

As for how many families can join the indoor playdate? Given CDC guidelines about meeting up with unvaccinated households, Pierre suggests limiting it to one family at a time. Gandhi's interpretation is more liberal: If the kids are all low risk and the adults are all vaccinated, she would suggest no more than four households. "It's ultimately about what your risk tolerance is," Gandhi notes — though case rates in your community should help guide your decision-making.

My relatives want to hold a family reunion. Is it safe for us to gather?

Yes, but keep it small and keep most of the activities outdoors if you can. "If you have a big family reunion, there's going to be risk," says Malani. "It's probably not a great time to hang out with 100 people. "

Make sure all the vulnerable adults in the family are vaccinated and again, talk openly about the kids' risk factors. It might be a good idea to hold off on mask-less indoor playdates for a week or two before traveling to the reunion, Pierre says. For older kids, maybe they shouldn't be spending a lot of time unmasked with a bunch of friends before they meet up with grandparents, Landon adds.

What about taking a vacation with my unvaccinated kids?

If it's feasible, consider driving instead of flying, says Aronoff.

If you do fly, make sure your kids know how to wear a mask properly and keep their distance from other people. Pierre, the mother of 3-year-old twins, suggests avoiding longer flights because longer exposures pose potentially higher risks. Also, consider your sanity: It can be hard to keep young kids masked up and entertained on long-haul flights.

The biggest risk on flights is from the exhalations of nearby passengers, so seat your kids in between you and their other parent, not on an aisle, suggest Aronoff and Gandhi.

Avoid busy theme parks or crowded indoor activities at your destination. One other thing to consider: Will your kids have to quarantine once they're back home or refrain from school sports or other activities? "Make sure you understand all the implications of traveling with your unvaccinated children," Landon says.

Travel

Is it safe to fly domestically?

Yes, according to the CDC. But you still have to wear a mask, in part to keep other travelers safe, but also yourself, "because who wants a cold on vacation?" Landon notes. Also, try to keep physically distanced and avoid crowds, and monitor yourself for any symptoms a few days after you arrive. The CDC does not require vaccinated domestic travelers to quarantine after travel, unless you have symptoms.

That said, until the majority of the U.S. is vaccinated, experts say the threshold for travel should be higher than usual. Consider why you are traveling and how important it is, says Saad Omer, director of the Yale Institute for Global Health. "Don't gather your square-dancing group and go for a field trip," he says. But if you need to get away for your mental health or you haven't seen your mother in a year, go ahead.

What about international travel?

It's far more complicated. You have to know the rules of the country you're going to. Many still require you to quarantine when you arrive and/or show a negative COVID-19 test. The other thing to remember is that you'll need a negative test to get back into the U.S.

The CDC says traveling abroad poses added risk, even for fully vaccinated travelers. For example, you could be exposed to new virus variants of concern and potentially bring them back with you. The agency's list of very high risk foreign destinations is very long.

Finally, you have to consider the health system in the country you're visiting. Is it overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases? "You may not get COVID, but if you get a heart attack or break your leg, that may not be a great place to be," says Dr. Henry Wu, an infectious disease specialist and head of the TravelWell Center at Emory University.

Fitness & Self-Care Services

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Can I go back to the gym?

If you're fully vaccinated, the risk of a gym visit is moderate, says Pierre — provided you stick to the machines, keep your mask on and maintain physical distance from other gymgoers.

But keep in mind, for the unvaccinated, gyms are "one of the highest-risk settings," says Malani. That's because exercise involves heavy breathing that can send respiratory particles flying into the air. Indoor fitness classes seem to be particularly risky: Multiple outbreaks in the U.S. and abroad have been tied to indoor group classes, even when physical distancing was in place.

Of course, lack of exercise is also a big risk to health long term — which is why Gandhi says she's told her octogenarian parents to head back to the gym now that they're fully vaccinated.

"They lost some muscle mass in this last year and it's worrying me," Gandhi says of her parents — though she advised them to go at times when it is unlikely to be crowded.

If you do go, make sure your gym is still operating at reduced capacity, has proper spacing between machines and enforces mask-wearing, which protects unvaccinated staff or other guests. The experts we spoke with agreed it's best to avoid indoor group classes for now. It can be hard to maintain distance in these classes, which often require you to jump, lunge or dance around.

Is it safe to get a massage or other service that requires close contact with a technician?

Yes, go get that self-care, says Malani. "If you're both masked, it's safe and I think there's good data to show that." She points to a study published last summer that found no transmission of the coronavirus among 139 clients exposed to two hairdressers with confirmed COVID-19 at a salon where everyone was required to be masked. "The risk is higher to the technician than you because of the number of people they're exposed to," she notes. So keep your mask on to keep them safe.

What about lip waxing or other services that requires me to remove my mask?

If a service requires you to remove your mask, it's not zero-risk, even if you are fully vaccinated. Many treatment rooms are cramped and often poorly ventilated. "You have to keep it all in perspective and decide," Malani says. "Frankly, if you're wearing a mask, you're covering up your face — you don't need to get your lip waxed."

Pierre agrees, but says that if you are determined to get this kind of service, think about how long it will last, what the local transmission rates are in your area and whether variants of concern are circulating locally and then decide your risk tolerance.

Weddings

Should I attend — or host — a wedding?

"If this is someone important to you, don't miss their wedding," says Malani. Just remember: Outdoors is going to be safer than indoors, and smaller gatherings are also lower risk. "The more people that are present, the more of a risk," Pierre says.

You don't have to participate in every part of the event — for instance, you could skip the reception if it's indoors and you don't know the vaccination status of the guest list. "I would choose which parts of the wedding I want to attend based on the situation," says Landon. "You can still be supportive of your family and be there, take pictures, but you don't have to do everything."

If you're the host, consider whether you can keep the event local or minimize the number of out-of-town guests. And keep it small: The CDC advises avoiding medium- and large-size gatherings, though it hasn't defined these sizes. Pierre suggests 50 people or less as a good rule of thumb.

Also keep in mind that your unvaccinated guests may need to take precautions that vaccinated guests can skip. Even if your wedding is outdoors, the CDC advises unvaccinated people to wear masks at small outdoor gatherings. "Personally, if I were planning a wedding, I would just wait a couple more months until we can all get fully vaccinated," Gandhi says.

Indoor dining

Can I finally eat inside at a restaurant?

Go ahead and call for a reservation, but ask a few questions before you book a table. "For vaccinated individuals, eating indoors is safer than it has been all year," says Landon. "Unfortunately, [that] doesn't make it perfectly safe."

Indoor dining is higher risk than many activities, explains Pierre, "because that involves sitting indoors in situations where there might be not as great ventilation, with people of mixed or unknown vaccination status."

Find out if the restaurant has good ventilation and spacing between tables and if staff are wearing masks. These practices protect not just you but the staff and any unvaccinated customers. "You can go dine wherever you'd like if you're vaccinated, but it's more of the community-mindedness that might want to stop you from eating at a place where they're not following rules," says Landon.

And remember, people who are vaccinated may still be able to transmit.

"I would feel very guilty if I harbored it and then gave it to somebody which was not vaccinated, if I was that patient zero," adds Kullar.

Still, most of our experts said they would eat indoors in a restaurant unless they live in a place experiencing very high community spread. Do wear your mask when the server takes your order, or when walking through the space to the rest room or exit. And if you've got unvaccinated kids, leave them at home, Landon says — or dine outside instead.

Kristen Kendrick contributed to this report.

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ANDEE TAGLE, HOST:

This is NPR's LIFE KIT. I'm Andee Tagle, one of the producers of the show. And today, listeners, I went for a run without a mask on. I repeat, I went for a run out in the world mask-free. And it was so weird. The fully vaccinated lower half of my face immediately wanted to retreat. And I had to resist the urge to shout at every passerby, don't judge me; I got the shot. The CDC said it's safe now. I swear. I'll send you the link.

Even though the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have now given fully vaccinated people the nod to go without masks in some settings, we've been living in this double masked, socially distant world for so long that it's hard to just flip a switch because possibly the only thing stranger than pandemic life, friends, is the first step you take away from it. So how do we cope facing this new one foot in, one foot out reality? The answer, it seems, one small step at a time. So in this episode of LIFE KIT, we'll help answer your questions about what comes next.

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TAGLE: With me is science desk correspondent Maria Godoy. Hey, Maria.

MARIA GODOY, BYLINE: Hey, Andee.

TAGLE: OK, Maria. So recently, the CDC came out with new guidance for fully vaccinated people - and lots of good news when it comes to masks, right? Can you walk us through some of that?

GODOY: Right. Well, the CDC said if you're fully vaccinated - and just to be clear, fully vaccinated means at least two weeks out from your second dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or two weeks out from the one-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine. CDC says if you meet that criteria, then you don't need a mask anymore when you're outdoors - except if you're in a crowd. So like, if you're in a packed baseball game or you're at a crowded farmers market, then you're still going to wear a mask. But just going out to walk the dog, you do not need a mask anymore, which is great news.

It is, however, somewhat confusing for some people, so I spoke with Linsey Marr. She's an aerosols researcher at Virginia Tech, so she studies how viruses transit in the air. And she's also studied masks. She gave me this really great, easy-to-imagine, easy-to-use rule of thumb for when to mask.

LINSEY MARR: My general rules of thumb would be if I'm having a face-to-face conversation with someone and if I can put my arms sort of out and they're within arm's reach for more than a minute or two, then I would mask.

GODOY: And Marr says that rule applies when you don't know if someone is vaccinated. If you know they're fully vaccinated, no need for masks.

TAGLE: Wow. That's great news. OK - so having a face-to-face conversation within arm's reach and for more than a minute or two.

GODOY: Exactly. And the reason for that is is just all the research that's come out over the last year suggests that outdoor transmission is a whole lot less likely to occur than indoor transmission when it comes to this virus.

Dr. Monica Gandhi of UC San Francisco points to one really strong study from China, where they traced back thousands of coronavirus cases.

MONICA GANDHI: They did really careful contact tracing out of 7,324 infections. Only one they could even trace to outdoor transmission. That's how rare we are. The risk of transmission is so much lower outside.

TAGLE: So outdoor activities where there's not too many people, we're square.

GODOY: Yeah, absolutely. And we've been hearing this throughout the pandemic, really. You know, in general, anything outdoors is going to be a lot safer than indoors because there's just so much air to disperse the virus. So all the fresh air out there is just going to push those virus particles away as soon as they're expelled. They don't have time to hover and hang out and infect you.

TAGLE: OK. So how can we gauge our risk level from situation to situation? How do we know what's safe to do, when we feel safe in a situation to go maskless?

GODOY: I think everybody who's been fully vaccinated is asking themselves this (laughter). Right? The CDC has put out guidelines for a lot of interactions. But the truth is, for a lot of other things we do, there's just no set rule book. And instead, there are some questions you should ask yourself or general things to keep in mind before you set out to do something. You know, one is, is the activity outdoors versus indoors, because as we talked about, outdoors is much less risk. Are you meeting up with people that are fully vaccinated, or are there unvaccinated people that you're going to be meeting with? Are they more vulnerable to the virus, like someone who is immunocompromised, you know, for instance? You want to be more careful around them. How many people are going to be present? Because vaccinated or not, the more people at a gathering, the more risk there is. And the other thing to consider is, what are the case counts in your area like? If there's a lot of transmission in your community, you're just going to want to be more careful than if case counts are really low.

TAGLE: Right. And people who are vaccinated need to remember, of course, that it isn't just about them.

GODOY: Right. It's not about you. For instance, when you're out and about, you don't know if the people around you are vaccinated or not. While a lot of Americans have gotten vaccinated, there's still a lot of us that haven't. The other thing to remember is there are people who may not get full protection from vaccination, like people who are severely immunocompromised. There's research suggesting they may not respond as well to the vaccine. So we still have to be careful around them. And again, if you are in a public space, you don't know who fits into that category.

TAGLE: Right. So just because you're vaccinated doesn't mean it's a free for all, doesn't mean you can go and do whatever you want.

GODOY: Right. You still have to think about other people. Just don't be a jerk. (Laughter).

TAGLE: Don't be a jerk. I like that. That's a great rule of thumb.

GODOY: That's generally, like, you know, a good rule for life. I'm going to go ahead and endorse that.

TAGLE: That's what I was going to say. Vaccinated or not, I think that's a great rule.

GODOY: Yeah.

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TAGLE: OK. So let's go through some frequently asked questions about do's and don'ts when it comes to post-vaccination life. Why don't we start with masks? If you're fully vaccinated, what should your mask strategy be?

GODOY: If you are going indoors into a public space, like going grocery shopping, hitting the mall, you still need to be wearing a mask. If you're going on an airplane, wear a mask. If you are socializing indoors with friends who are also fully vaccinated, you don't need to wear a mask. That's according to the CDC.

TAGLE: What about social gatherings? What are the rules there?

GODOY: All right. Well, good news - if you're fully vaccinated and you want to hang out with your best friend who is fully vaccinated or 10 best friends who are fully vaccinated, go ahead and...

TAGLE: Ten?

GODOY: ...Gather indoors. Yeah, 10. Actually, that's interesting. I do say 10 because, funny enough, the CDC said it's perfectly fine to, you know, hang out indoors with your fully vaccinated friends, but avoid medium- to large-size gatherings. And they did not give you a number to say what a medium- to large-sized gathering is. But several infectious disease experts I've spoken with suggested 10 would be a good rule of thumb. So that's what I'm going with.

Now, if you want to meet up indoors with another family that is not fully vaccinated, the guidance is to limit it to just one other unvaccinated household. When I think about this rule, I call it the grandparents rule because it's really kind of designed for that situation where grandma and grandpa are vaccinated; they want to see their grandkid who isn't vaccinated. And...

TAGLE: Sure.

GODOY: ...Basically, the CDC is saying, yeah, you can go see them, give them a hug, et cetera.

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TAGLE: OK. Here's a big one. I know we're all itching for it. What about travel? What's the risk assessment there?

GODOY: OK. So the good news is if you're fully vaccinated, the CDC says domestic travel is safe for you. You still have to wear a mask when you travel. You still have to keep physical distance at the airport, et cetera. But go ahead. Now, the one thing is, because we are still in a pandemic - and again, a lot of people out there still aren't vaccinated - experts suggest don't go wild with the travel, you know, maybe have a higher threshold than usual. So maybe don't hop on a plane with your, you know, 20-person choir group to go...

TAGLE: Man.

GODOY: ...See the monuments, you know. But - right. But if you haven't seen your mom in a year or you need to get away for your mental health, that's a valid reason, and you should go and feel good about going.

TAGLE: So this isn't, you know, anywhere I want, anytime I want. This isn't a blank check.

GODOY: Right. It's not anywhere you want, anytime you want. I mean, again, it's being community minded and thinking about other people, too. Right? And especially international travel, CDC says, definitely wait till you're fully vaccinated to do it, but it does pose more risk even if you are fully vaccinated, in part because there may be variants of concern circulating in the country you're going to. And you risk, you know, being exposed and bringing them back to you and helping them circulate here.

And the other thing you really got to think about when you travel abroad is, how bad is the pandemic hitting them? Are the hospitals overloaded with COVID patients? Because even if you don't get sick with COVID while you're abroad, if you break your leg or you have a heart attack, you are going to be in trouble if those hospitals can't see you because they're flooded, you know, overwhelmed with COVID patients. So that's something you've really got to consider. And then you also will need a negative test to get back into the U.S. So you have to consider, where can I get that test - where in the country I'm in? And can I get it within three days? - which is what you need.

TAGLE: OK. What about dining? We we know that outdoor is always better for cutting down on chances of spreading COVID-19. But how safe is it to dine indoors if you're fully vaccinated?

GODOY: You know, it's probably much safer now than at any other point in the pandemic if you're fully vaccinated. But it's not completely without risk. And before you go and make that reservation, find out if that restaurant has good ventilation, good spacing between tables, if staff are wearing masks. And really, you know, those masks are probably to protect you, but also to protect the staff and any unvaccinated customers. You got to think about, you know, the rest of the community. It's not just about you. If they're not enforcing mask-wearing, maybe that restaurant isn't the kind of place you want to support 'cause they're not thinking - they're not being community-minded and looking out for others.

TAGLE: Right. Like we said, rule of vaccinated life and rule of general life - just don't be a jerk. Good rule of thumb.

GODOY: Yes, don't be a jerk. That is the theme of this episode (laughter).

TAGLE: I really that.

OK. And it sounds like just in general, what you're saying here is the more you can control your situation, the better. So indoor dining, while it's OK, you can control less of the situation, so outdoors is still better.

GODOY: Right. And again, you should - the safer - if you're going to go indoor dining, like, everybody in your party should be fully vaccinated. It's a lot riskier for them if you're bringing someone unvaccinated with you.

TAGLE: Got it.

OK. Let's talk about the gym. Lots of people miss that space to work out.

GODOY: I do.

TAGLE: Maria, I know you and I were spin buddies back in the day. I wonder if we'll ever get that back.

GODOY: Yeah, I don't even know if I can spin anymore. Like, my legs have lost all muscle tone (laughter).

TAGLE: Neither can I. I don't know. I'm so curious. You know, it was a good stress reliever for a lot of people. I know it was for us. But it's also a pretty easy place to spread COVID. So...

GODOY: Right. I have told LIFE KIT listeners in more than one episode how much I love exercise. It's so important for mental health. I'm personally not ready to go back to the gym yet because gyms were considered one of the highest-risk settings for people who are unvaccinated. But if you're fully vaccinated, the risk of a gym visit is now a lot more moderate, so hooray. But you should remember to stick to the machines, keep your mask on and maintain physical distance from other gymgoers. And if you're going to a gym, you want to go to one that is keeping those machines spaced and is enforcing mask wear for people who go there. I would avoid indoor fitness classes, in part because multiple outbreaks in the U.S. and abroad have been tied to indoor group classes, even when physical distancing was in place. And it can be hard to make sure you have enough space from your neighbor when you're Zumba-ing shaking those hips. You know?

TAGLE: That makes sense.

GODOY: So experts say if you're going to a fitness class, keep it outdoors. Indoor ones are probably still not a great idea. But that said, not getting exercise is also a risk to your health long term. So if you feel mentally ready to go back to the gym, go ahead. Just, you know, maybe try and go when it's less busy. Keep those masks on. Stick to the machines.

TAGLE: OK. Maria, big question now, finally - hugs. Can I please, please hug my friends now?

GODOY: Oh, my gosh. Please do. We are living with a very large hug deficit in the world right now.

TAGLE: Oh, my gosh, yes. Thank you.

GODOY: Yep. If you are fully vaccinated, you feel you should go ahead and have a hug marathon with all those friends. If you're fully vaccinated and they're fully vaccinated, hug away. Even if they're not fully vaccinated, it's probably OK to give them that hug. Just keep your mask on, turn your face away and squeeze. They'll feel better. You'll feel better. The love will spread (laughter).

TAGLE: I already feel better just thinking about it. Hug away, you say. I love it.

GODOY: Hug away.

TAGLE: Maria, you're fully vaccinated, right?

GODOY: Yeah, I am - as of yesterday, actually.

TAGLE: Congratulations. How do you feel?

GODOY: I'm not sure how to feel. It's funny. Yesterday, I went for a walk with my husband, and we were a few blocks away from our house and I realized I'd forgotten to grab a mask. And I mean, that's been a part of my daily life for a whole year-plus. And it was just - it was weird. It was...

TAGLE: Weird, right?

GODOY: ...Very weird. But I am so grateful that I have the vaccine. Thank you, science. I think we can't say that enough. Thank you, science.

TAGLE: Thank you, science. I would hug science if science was around to hug because we can hug away now.

GODOY: (Laughter) Exactly.

TAGLE: Thank you so much, Maria. This was great.

GODOY: Yeah, my pleasure. Here's a virtual hug for you - squeeze.

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TAGLE: For more LIFE KIT, check out our other episodes. Maria has episodes about how to eat less meat and intuitive eating. You can find those at npr.org/lifekit. And if you love LIFE KIT and want more, subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org/lifekitnewsletter. If you've got a suggestion for an episode or a random tip, leave us a voicemail at 202-216-9823, or email us the voice memo at lifekit@npr.org.

This episode was produced by Meghan Keane, who's also our managing producer. Beth Donovan is the senior editor. This episode was edited by Clare Lombardo. Special thanks to Carmel Wroth. Our digital editors are Beck Harlan and Clare Lombardo. And our editorial assistant is Clare Marie Schneider. I'm Andee Tagle. Thanks for listening.

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